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		<title>By: Climate Change &#124; Canadian Liberty</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-3/#comment-12031</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Change &#124; Canadian Liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 02:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Climate Realism: Not to Be Denied Any Longer</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-11453</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Realism: Not to Be Denied Any Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: S. T. Karnick</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-9389</link>
		<dc:creator>S. T. Karnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that won&#039;t work, Dr Vadas. You can&#039;t make unsupported assertions that allegedly require enormous sacrifices of other people and then expect your interlocutors to gather the evidence themselves to make your points for you. Expecting us to take your or anyone else&#039;s word for this momentous matter is as unjustifiable as expecting people not to ask questions about a plan to use a world government to require people to take disastrously expensive precautions against an invasion by extraterrestrials. The substance of your comments has consistently been that anyone who disagrees with you is simply evil and deluded, and that you have no obligation to provide evidence for things you say. There&#039;s far too much at stake, however, for people on either side of the argument to accept any contentions merely on another person&#039;s claim of authority in the matter. I refer readers to the actual evidence I have cited above and elsewhere and invite them to make their own decisions on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that won&#8217;t work, Dr Vadas. You can&#8217;t make unsupported assertions that allegedly require enormous sacrifices of other people and then expect your interlocutors to gather the evidence themselves to make your points for you. Expecting us to take your or anyone else&#8217;s word for this momentous matter is as unjustifiable as expecting people not to ask questions about a plan to use a world government to require people to take disastrously expensive precautions against an invasion by extraterrestrials. The substance of your comments has consistently been that anyone who disagrees with you is simply evil and deluded, and that you have no obligation to provide evidence for things you say. There&#8217;s far too much at stake, however, for people on either side of the argument to accept any contentions merely on another person&#8217;s claim of authority in the matter. I refer readers to the actual evidence I have cited above and elsewhere and invite them to make their own decisions on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-9386</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learn to read to see all the evidence, Karnick; it&#039;s not my job to spoon-feed you. Fortunately, other people who don&#039;t have their minds already made up are the ones who&#039;ll make the important management decisions to keep our world livable for longer. It&#039;s good to be a healthy skeptic, but as the famous saying goes, a person&#039;s mind is like a parachute (only working when open). Precautionary management is better than mortgaging our future over Neanderthaloid dogma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learn to read to see all the evidence, Karnick; it&#8217;s not my job to spoon-feed you. Fortunately, other people who don&#8217;t have their minds already made up are the ones who&#8217;ll make the important management decisions to keep our world livable for longer. It&#8217;s good to be a healthy skeptic, but as the famous saying goes, a person&#8217;s mind is like a parachute (only working when open). Precautionary management is better than mortgaging our future over Neanderthaloid dogma.</p>
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		<title>By: S. T. Karnick</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-9385</link>
		<dc:creator>S. T. Karnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still no evidence for a manmade global warming catastrophe, Dr. Vadas? Instead you insist on again asserting the absurd claim that all weather phenomena are proof of global warming. Little wonder, then, that global warming alarmism has become a laughing stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no evidence for a manmade global warming catastrophe, Dr. Vadas? Instead you insist on again asserting the absurd claim that all weather phenomena are proof of global warming. Little wonder, then, that global warming alarmism has become a laughing stock.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-9384</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karnick is clearly obsessed with big government/business paranoia, to the point of losing track of reality. Anybody who fears global warming, or more accurately, climate change, doesn&#039;t necessarily support either big government or business, but rather, fears that the world won&#039;t be inhabitable for posterity. I don&#039;t know if Karnick has any children, but I do. Moreover, it&#039;s ironic that Karnick chooses to call climate-change alarmists supporters of big business, as the latter got us in trouble with greenhouse gases in the first place. Indeed, the car industry was a big supporter of American suburbia, to promote more driving and thus more car-selling.

No, the climate isn&#039;t always changing, as that&#039;s the definition of &#039;weather&#039;. Rather, climate shows shifts  on longer time scales, including interdecadal cycles that appear to be getting shorter, as interannual phenomena (i.e., El Nino and La Nina events) become more common. So despite the cyclical nature of climate, global warming is a trend that has proven to be statistically significant despite all the other stuff going on. The reason that the term ‘climate change’ is becoming more common is because not all predicted effects from greenhouse gases is warming, as cold-weather extremes are becoming more common, too. So climate change really is about seeing more extreme events like hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires, and floods, as we create our own apocalypse.

So what we need are new jobs that get us into the green market, such that we&#039;re buying American windmill parts rather than importing them from Germany or China (which ironically causes more greenhouse-gas production). Let&#039;s get the USA economy back on its feet! Fortunately, American companies are coming to realize that they need to change, notably the car industry that has been losing out in sales to foreign companies making cars with better gas mileage. A good business will work with government to develop win-win situations, that provide more certainty for economic development without destroying the environment. The writing is on the wall, if Karnick is willing to look there (rather than keep his back to the wall in siege mentality).

So there’s your free tutorial, Mr./Ms. Karnick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karnick is clearly obsessed with big government/business paranoia, to the point of losing track of reality. Anybody who fears global warming, or more accurately, climate change, doesn&#8217;t necessarily support either big government or business, but rather, fears that the world won&#8217;t be inhabitable for posterity. I don&#8217;t know if Karnick has any children, but I do. Moreover, it&#8217;s ironic that Karnick chooses to call climate-change alarmists supporters of big business, as the latter got us in trouble with greenhouse gases in the first place. Indeed, the car industry was a big supporter of American suburbia, to promote more driving and thus more car-selling.</p>
<p>No, the climate isn&#8217;t always changing, as that&#8217;s the definition of &#8216;weather&#8217;. Rather, climate shows shifts  on longer time scales, including interdecadal cycles that appear to be getting shorter, as interannual phenomena (i.e., El Nino and La Nina events) become more common. So despite the cyclical nature of climate, global warming is a trend that has proven to be statistically significant despite all the other stuff going on. The reason that the term ‘climate change’ is becoming more common is because not all predicted effects from greenhouse gases is warming, as cold-weather extremes are becoming more common, too. So climate change really is about seeing more extreme events like hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, wildfires, and floods, as we create our own apocalypse.</p>
<p>So what we need are new jobs that get us into the green market, such that we&#8217;re buying American windmill parts rather than importing them from Germany or China (which ironically causes more greenhouse-gas production). Let&#8217;s get the USA economy back on its feet! Fortunately, American companies are coming to realize that they need to change, notably the car industry that has been losing out in sales to foreign companies making cars with better gas mileage. A good business will work with government to develop win-win situations, that provide more certainty for economic development without destroying the environment. The writing is on the wall, if Karnick is willing to look there (rather than keep his back to the wall in siege mentality).</p>
<p>So there’s your free tutorial, Mr./Ms. Karnick.</p>
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		<title>By: S. T. Karnick</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-8928</link>
		<dc:creator>S. T. Karnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Dr. Vadas, again you present no actual evidence, but this time only an advertisement for a book by the self-promoting blowhard Hansen? That is not a mission accomplished. Presenting real evidence is the only way to do that, and the failure to do so is the problem with your argument.

Contrary to your claim of poverty for the global warming alarmism brigades, there are in fact people making huge fortunes off of &quot;climate change&quot; alarmism. Al Gore, for example. What, in fact, has been the push behind alarmism for the past decade? It has been a cooperative effort between government and big business. Wall Street stood to make a gargantuan fortune from cap and trade, and this monstrous ripoff of ordinary people was barely averted in the past congressional session, thanks to huge public opposition against this outrage which was supported by both Wall Street and the big energy companies in addition to the progressive Left. These are not holy, poverty-vowing forces of benevolence. They are rapacious thieves.

Dr. Vadas, like all alarmists, is on the side of big government and big business against the individual, the consumer of energy production. His efforts and those of other alarmists aid in the taking of money from ordinary people and forcibly giving it to the rich. That is the point of the new push for &quot;renewable power&quot; mandates, which will radically raises prices to consumers of electricity, automobile fuel, and all other forms of energy--which President Obama has openly admitted. If Dr. Vadas says otherwise, then he is disagreeing with Obama and the myriad of politicians who are pushing for the job-killing and inflationary policies Dr. Vadas supports.

Finally, readers should note the good doctor&#039;s move away from the &quot;global warming&quot; claim to the blatantly self-fulfilling &quot;climate change&quot; assertion. The climate is always changing, regardless of what humans do, and hence the fomenting of fear of &quot;climate change&quot; is as sensible and justified as creating fear of the rotation of the earth. The alarmists&#039; change in terminology in itself proves the case against the manmade global warming alarm: the fact that its own adherents have abandoned it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Dr. Vadas, again you present no actual evidence, but this time only an advertisement for a book by the self-promoting blowhard Hansen? That is not a mission accomplished. Presenting real evidence is the only way to do that, and the failure to do so is the problem with your argument.</p>
<p>Contrary to your claim of poverty for the global warming alarmism brigades, there are in fact people making huge fortunes off of &#8220;climate change&#8221; alarmism. Al Gore, for example. What, in fact, has been the push behind alarmism for the past decade? It has been a cooperative effort between government and big business. Wall Street stood to make a gargantuan fortune from cap and trade, and this monstrous ripoff of ordinary people was barely averted in the past congressional session, thanks to huge public opposition against this outrage which was supported by both Wall Street and the big energy companies in addition to the progressive Left. These are not holy, poverty-vowing forces of benevolence. They are rapacious thieves.</p>
<p>Dr. Vadas, like all alarmists, is on the side of big government and big business against the individual, the consumer of energy production. His efforts and those of other alarmists aid in the taking of money from ordinary people and forcibly giving it to the rich. That is the point of the new push for &#8220;renewable power&#8221; mandates, which will radically raises prices to consumers of electricity, automobile fuel, and all other forms of energy&#8211;which President Obama has openly admitted. If Dr. Vadas says otherwise, then he is disagreeing with Obama and the myriad of politicians who are pushing for the job-killing and inflationary policies Dr. Vadas supports.</p>
<p>Finally, readers should note the good doctor&#8217;s move away from the &#8220;global warming&#8221; claim to the blatantly self-fulfilling &#8220;climate change&#8221; assertion. The climate is always changing, regardless of what humans do, and hence the fomenting of fear of &#8220;climate change&#8221; is as sensible and justified as creating fear of the rotation of the earth. The alarmists&#8217; change in terminology in itself proves the case against the manmade global warming alarm: the fact that its own adherents have abandoned it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-8871</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 06:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Karnick wanted evidence for global warming, so let me cite the 2009 book by Jim Hansen, the award-winning American scientist who first discovered and publicized this problem in the 1980s. The title is &quot;Storms of my grandchildren: the truth about the coming climate catastrophe and our last chance to save humanity&quot;. This book was on Trout Unlimited&#039;s ‘11 must-have books for the coldwater conservationist&#039; during 2010.

And for those who think people are &quot;making money&quot; off the climate-change crisis, please note that academic scientists don&#039;t make anywhere near the obscene salaries that business CEOs do. Moreover, the funding provides pretty-modest salaries for graduate students and postdocs to help with the research. I should know, having gone through this process personally and vicariously through scientific relatives of mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Karnick wanted evidence for global warming, so let me cite the 2009 book by Jim Hansen, the award-winning American scientist who first discovered and publicized this problem in the 1980s. The title is &#8220;Storms of my grandchildren: the truth about the coming climate catastrophe and our last chance to save humanity&#8221;. This book was on Trout Unlimited&#8217;s ‘11 must-have books for the coldwater conservationist&#8217; during 2010.</p>
<p>And for those who think people are &#8220;making money&#8221; off the climate-change crisis, please note that academic scientists don&#8217;t make anywhere near the obscene salaries that business CEOs do. Moreover, the funding provides pretty-modest salaries for graduate students and postdocs to help with the research. I should know, having gone through this process personally and vicariously through scientific relatives of mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-8862</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Robert L. Vadas, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 01:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure what I&#039;ve said might be considered &quot;false&quot;, but Karnick thankfully proves my point that the opinions of climate &quot;realists&quot; are based on philosophical dogma rather than good science. Checkmate, mission accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what I&#8217;ve said might be considered &#8220;false&#8221;, but Karnick thankfully proves my point that the opinions of climate &#8220;realists&#8221; are based on philosophical dogma rather than good science. Checkmate, mission accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: S. T. Karnick</title>
		<link>http://stkarnick.com/culture/2010/05/27/climate-realism-not-to-be-denied-any-longer/comment-page-2/#comment-8771</link>
		<dc:creator>S. T. Karnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Vadas&#039;s claims here are manifestly false. As noted above, there is NO consensus among climate scientists that global warming is both manmade and a crisis. In addition, the policy prescriptions he posits as inevitable are anything but--or else they wouldn&#039;t have to be mandated by governments. One may hold whatever opinion one wishes about global warming, the existence of extraterrestrial life, or the merits of pistachio ice cream, but using the government to force others to pay for one&#039;s wandering desires is wrong. Simply wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Vadas&#8217;s claims here are manifestly false. As noted above, there is NO consensus among climate scientists that global warming is both manmade and a crisis. In addition, the policy prescriptions he posits as inevitable are anything but&#8211;or else they wouldn&#8217;t have to be mandated by governments. One may hold whatever opinion one wishes about global warming, the existence of extraterrestrial life, or the merits of pistachio ice cream, but using the government to force others to pay for one&#8217;s wandering desires is wrong. Simply wrong.</p>
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