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		<title>By: Brian McKim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian McKim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 02:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, people.

Let&#039;s not smear all of standup because of one lecturer who traffics in gossip and tales of rubbing elbows with the famous and near-famous.

Get a hold of yourselves.

Witnessing standup comedy, by someone who does it right, is probably one of the finest nights out anyone can experience.

There are a tremendous number of creative and intelligent comedians out there and they approach comedy in myriad ways.
If Kathy Griffin says something dumb, it is probably a good idea to separate yourself from people like her to refrain from saying something equally dumb.

I&#039;m talking to you, Bob Champ.  I&#039;m talking to you, Fortunato.

Standup comedy is an enduring form of entertainment for very good reason.  You folks gotta get out more.

For every &quot;potty-mouth comedian&quot; you old codgers allude to, there are 200 fine, thoughtful and wickedly clever comics out there.

Please refrain from extrapolating the words of a few over an entire population. I believe that might be the very definition of bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, people.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not smear all of standup because of one lecturer who traffics in gossip and tales of rubbing elbows with the famous and near-famous.</p>
<p>Get a hold of yourselves.</p>
<p>Witnessing standup comedy, by someone who does it right, is probably one of the finest nights out anyone can experience.</p>
<p>There are a tremendous number of creative and intelligent comedians out there and they approach comedy in myriad ways.<br />
If Kathy Griffin says something dumb, it is probably a good idea to separate yourself from people like her to refrain from saying something equally dumb.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking to you, Bob Champ.  I&#8217;m talking to you, Fortunato.</p>
<p>Standup comedy is an enduring form of entertainment for very good reason.  You folks gotta get out more.</p>
<p>For every &#8220;potty-mouth comedian&#8221; you old codgers allude to, there are 200 fine, thoughtful and wickedly clever comics out there.</p>
<p>Please refrain from extrapolating the words of a few over an entire population. I believe that might be the very definition of bigotry.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Nicholson Y. Fernando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Nicholson Y. Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this a way to get some attention?  If so, then it is a pathetic way.  She&#039;s lucky she lives in a society where you don&#039;t get punched in the mouth for such foul remarks.  As for her career, that&#039;s the only thing funny about her.  In short, she&#039;s the joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this a way to get some attention?  If so, then it is a pathetic way.  She&#8217;s lucky she lives in a society where you don&#8217;t get punched in the mouth for such foul remarks.  As for her career, that&#8217;s the only thing funny about her.  In short, she&#8217;s the joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Patton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy Griffin is not a comedian, she is gross, tacky and a scum bag.  She surely sold her soul a looong time ago.  And she is for damn sure ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy Griffin is not a comedian, she is gross, tacky and a scum bag.  She surely sold her soul a looong time ago.  And she is for damn sure ugly.</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy Griffin is a tacky woman with abdolutely no class and no taste. She can insult any politician she wants to insult abd I don&#039;t care. She crossed the line when she started insulting Scott Brown&#039;s daughters. No decent person would do such a thing. Would she insult Obama&#039;s daughters? I hope not but who knows? She has the judgement of a drunken sailor on leave, Oh, I am sorry; drunken soldiers are not that tasteless. My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy Griffin is a tacky woman with abdolutely no class and no taste. She can insult any politician she wants to insult abd I don&#8217;t care. She crossed the line when she started insulting Scott Brown&#8217;s daughters. No decent person would do such a thing. Would she insult Obama&#8217;s daughters? I hope not but who knows? She has the judgement of a drunken sailor on leave, Oh, I am sorry; drunken soldiers are not that tasteless. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: S. T. Karnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. T. Karnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no contradiction, here, Fortunato. I&#039;m calling for people to use their power as consumers and as communicators to let a corporation know that we will hold them accountable for their hirings. This is the first time I&#039;ve called for such an action, and I don&#039;t expect to do so very often, but I think that this is a case where it&#039;s important to make a statement.

The American Culture is thoroughly liberal in our opinion of what can be good culture, but we also consider it vitally important to uphold certain standards, one of the most important of which is the acceptance of responsibility for one&#039;s actions. That&#039;s what I&#039;m calling for here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no contradiction, here, Fortunato. I&#8217;m calling for people to use their power as consumers and as communicators to let a corporation know that we will hold them accountable for their hirings. This is the first time I&#8217;ve called for such an action, and I don&#8217;t expect to do so very often, but I think that this is a case where it&#8217;s important to make a statement.</p>
<p>The American Culture is thoroughly liberal in our opinion of what can be good culture, but we also consider it vitally important to uphold certain standards, one of the most important of which is the acceptance of responsibility for one&#8217;s actions. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m calling for here.</p>
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		<title>By: Fortunato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortunato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stand-up comedy has become a genre for the tasteless, the foul-mouthed, the bizarre. You don’t really need to be funny anymore to be a comic, and that’s sad.&quot;

You can thank Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Andy Kaufman and Bill Hicks for that. And liberals don&#039;t care for funniness, they&#039;re too concerned with &quot;depth&quot;, &quot;edgniness&quot; and the ilk to be concerned with mere humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stand-up comedy has become a genre for the tasteless, the foul-mouthed, the bizarre. You don’t really need to be funny anymore to be a comic, and that’s sad.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can thank Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Andy Kaufman and Bill Hicks for that. And liberals don&#8217;t care for funniness, they&#8217;re too concerned with &#8220;depth&#8221;, &#8220;edgniness&#8221; and the ilk to be concerned with mere humor.</p>
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		<title>By: Fortunato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fortunato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Like anybody else, Griffin has a right to say whatever she want to whoever will listen.&quot;

&quot;Also, please consider leaving a comment on Bravo TV executive Andy Cohen’s blog here, informing him and the network that you won’t watch any shows on Bravo until it cancels Kathy Griffin’s show.&quot;

Uh, I share your view of Griffin (she&#039;s as funny as she&#039;s beautiful) but I see some kind of a contradiction here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Like anybody else, Griffin has a right to say whatever she want to whoever will listen.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Also, please consider leaving a comment on Bravo TV executive Andy Cohen’s blog here, informing him and the network that you won’t watch any shows on Bravo until it cancels Kathy Griffin’s show.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, I share your view of Griffin (she&#8217;s as funny as she&#8217;s beautiful) but I see some kind of a contradiction here.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Kathy Griffin Reaches New Low, Boycott Suggested -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Kathy Griffin Reaches New Low, Boycott Suggested -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel Crandall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Crandall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an intelligent retort from noydb, but given his (or her) cowardice, as shown by an unwillingness to post under his (or her) own name, what can we expect. 

My only issue is that boycotts, generally speaking, don&#039;t work. A few conservatives will shut Griffin out of their entertainment choices, but liberals and those claiming the &quot;moderate&quot; label won&#039;t. Liberals will embrace her for the comments. &quot;Moderates&quot; have no principles by which to judge comments, and therefore will ignore them. 

In other words, Liberals will cheer, &quot;Here, here!&quot; Moderates will mutter, &quot;Who cares, she&#039;s just a comedian. And a funny one, at that.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an intelligent retort from noydb, but given his (or her) cowardice, as shown by an unwillingness to post under his (or her) own name, what can we expect. </p>
<p>My only issue is that boycotts, generally speaking, don&#8217;t work. A few conservatives will shut Griffin out of their entertainment choices, but liberals and those claiming the &#8220;moderate&#8221; label won&#8217;t. Liberals will embrace her for the comments. &#8220;Moderates&#8221; have no principles by which to judge comments, and therefore will ignore them. </p>
<p>In other words, Liberals will cheer, &#8220;Here, here!&#8221; Moderates will mutter, &#8220;Who cares, she&#8217;s just a comedian. And a funny one, at that.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Champ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Champ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. A lot gets by in comedy, but the attacks on Brown&#039;s daughters was simply insult--not in the least funny. In fact, a lot of Griffin&#039;s stuff isn&#039;t funny, though her audiences laugh at it.

Stand-up comedy has become a genre for the tasteless, the foul-mouthed, the bizarre. You don&#039;t really need to be funny anymore to be a comic, and that&#039;s sad.

I remember that the great Fred Allen once said that comedy was an a treadmill to oblivion. I suspect we have already reached that makr, and reached it some time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. A lot gets by in comedy, but the attacks on Brown&#8217;s daughters was simply insult&#8211;not in the least funny. In fact, a lot of Griffin&#8217;s stuff isn&#8217;t funny, though her audiences laugh at it.</p>
<p>Stand-up comedy has become a genre for the tasteless, the foul-mouthed, the bizarre. You don&#8217;t really need to be funny anymore to be a comic, and that&#8217;s sad.</p>
<p>I remember that the great Fred Allen once said that comedy was an a treadmill to oblivion. I suspect we have already reached that makr, and reached it some time ago.</p>
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